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Making a Dry Lot and feeding schedules

 

 


Dude
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May 9, 2006, 1:02 AM

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Hello,

My wife and I are planning to start a small horse boarding business. We have two of our own on our 10 acre lot close to a great national park with hundred of high quality riding trails throughout. So the demand for boarding services in our area is quite high. Plus I figure, hey, if we got two mouths to feed, what's wrong with 3 or 4 more, right?! Now I'm not that much of a horse nut (caring, riding, cleaning, etc.), my wife takes care of that department. I've agreed to manage the infrastructure and do much of the grunt work, like a good husband would. Now before you go jumpin' to conclusions about how good of a hubby I seem to be, let me just preface that I'm a firm believer that MOST grunt work should be done from the comfort of my new John Deere tractor that I purchased a couple of months ago.

Anyhow....here are my questions:

--> We're looking to build a dry lot area (with post & rail fencing and an electric wire at the top) to contain the boarded horses. The area I want to build this dry lot area needs to be raised a little to keep the area dry during heavy rains and during the spring months. (we have long, cold winters here in Manitoba, Canada!). The dry lot area is approx 100X100 with a 12x30 windbreak in the centre. What material should I use to raise this area? Are horses OK with standing on sand for most of the spring/late fall (winter is a no-brainer, as it's packed snow!) Some say sand, some say more of a soil/sand mixture. My wife seems to believe the sand would be the best choice. Basically, she believes the horses would trample down the new sand over time into the existing clay gumbo and make a nice, well draining sand/clay mixture that should work well over time. One thing about sand I've read is the risk of sand colic, but I don't think this is a concern cuz our plan is to feed them in an area of the dry lot where there won't be any sand. Basically, I want to raise the grade immediately around the windbreak in the centre, then slope it down toward the edges of the dry lot area. I'd like to go with the sand cuz it's cheaper than the soil/sand mix, it drains well and won't create a mucky mess when it rains!

--> We are developing a network of grazing pastures for the summer months, and intend on releasing the boarded horses to these areas when the grass growth permits. During non-pasture grazing months, like winter/spring/late fall, I want to section off a corner of our square dry lot area via a swing-gate to provide the horses with periodic access to a high quality round hay bale during non-pasture grazing periods of the year. The routine we're hoping to follow is we open this corner feeding section of the dry lot for 2 hrs in the morning, then 2-3 hours in the evening. We could adjust these intervals in the winter as appropriate and supplement with a complete feed to keep the nutrition levels up. This limited access to hay will help reduce the amount of hay we go through and allow us to use a just-in-time delivery system with the 1500 lb round bales. These large round bales are the least costly option when it comes to feed. Water will be provided via a Ritchie 4-season watering trough. The lines have a submerged heat tape that so-far has worked wonders for our own horses. Does anyone see any problems with this feeding method?
Note: our own horses will be kept separate from the boarders to reduce the risk of spreading disease, feuds and scuffles etc.

Thanks for any input to my situations and answers to my questions.

Dude


Mark4510
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May 9, 2006, 2:44 PM

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Dude,
Congratulation on the new tractor. Which one did you get? Implements? Nothing like picking up a shovel, filling a wheel barrow just to remind yourself of how great tractors are.

To your questions…..

What material should you use for the raised area I guess depends on what you can get and the costs. In my experience horses do well in most places as long as its not rock. Sand is ok but it tends to shift around a lot due to traffic and run off. It also tends to get ground into the native soil. I am sure no expert for your area but I would build it up with compacted native soil(or whatever you can get inexpensively and compacts well) to get the elevation and then put a heavy top coat such as decomposed granite or heavy material that can be turned up if needed but compacts enough to survive run off. If there is a lot of slope the horses traffic will naturally push it out to the edges.

I assume your wind break will be sunk into the ground deep enough so it’s not going to move around.

Sand colic can be a problem but most of the time horses that have the right feed/supplements/nutrients don’t ingest a lot of sand.

It sounds like you have the water part figured out. I don’t have a lot of experience in feeding horses off of large round bales so I will let others jump in there.

In terms of the pastures there are a lot of ideas there. I would talk to your local university ag extension or similar group to help identify how to manage them. We don’t have enough water in the summer to keep the horses fed with that way. We are trying something new…..we have sectioned off certain areas within a pasture to act as a seed source for the rest of the pasture. Then we let the horses graze every thing down. If we get noxious weeds or less desirable forage we kill it off with an herbicide.

Sounds like you are asking all the right questions.

Regards,
Mark


Dude
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May 9, 2006, 11:08 PM

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Hey Mark,

I got a JD 2305! What a sweet machine! Small enough to cut the grass in the yard. Big enough to push/carry large 800lb square hay bales! I've even used it to lift and carry 1000lb boulders from my neighbors ditch into a circular drive we're building on our approach. It comes with a quick-detach loader, 62" deck, 60" rear blower and 3-pt sprayer.

Implements on my list that I'm planning to acquire include a box blade for levelling/grading the dry lot areas, maintaining the driveway, etc. I'd like to acquire a sub soiler/middle buster to open up some ground areas when necessary, and maybe a tiller in the future (using the neighbor's 5ft tiller in the mean time!). At some point as well, a manure spreader seems like a good idea.

Man, getting this tractor i'm sure will add 15 years to my time and increase my quality of life ten-fold! It's a lotta dough, but even my wife thinks it's well worth the price we pay cuz all the work it can do for us! (We have a wheel barrow in the yard and it's had a flat tire for the last 6 months, and I haven't even had the need to to fix it!!) Digging shovels are hung in garage, and haven't seen the light of day all spring!!

I owe much gratitude the folks at tractorbynet for all their feedback, suggestions and ideas on how I can put my baby to work for us!

On the issue of the dry lot: I think I've decided on the sand. It's cheap, it's clean and from what I gather from other horse owners is pretty good for the horse's well-being. I'll keep it in place with the box blade and keep it maintained with a couple of diamond harrows behind the tractor to keep the area level and nice looking.

On the topic of pasture management, there are a couple of things that I'm curious about: We have a good sprout of dandylions coming up. What chemical can I spray that'll kill the weeds but not affect the horses? Is there such a product? I've heard it's OK to use a strong weed killer, but you need to keep your horses off for a while. I need to investigate that a little more. Also, I'm looking to find out about a good liquid fertilizer I can use in spring to promote quick growth of the grasses in the pasture. I intend on spreading the manure throughout the feilds but that won't be till we get a good collection happening.

There are so many questions! So much to learn! I find the net is a great place to learn through other people's experience. One day at a time!

I appreciate your feedback and thoughts on our plans!


crehberg
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Mar 16, 2007, 3:37 PM

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Know I'm a little late dude, but if you do decide to fertilize you need to keep the horses off the pasture for a little while from my experience.

 
 
 


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